With books such as the now classic Ajuar funerario (Páginas de Espuma), a tribute to horror literature and micro-narrative, the Peruvian author Fernando Iwasaki managed to distil all the cold shivers, nausea and disquiet of the horror genre into 10 or 12 lines. Usually more expansive, but also inclined towards fantasy stories, as he recently demonstrated with La paz de los sepulcros (Alrevés) and Enrabiados (Páginas de Espuma), the Mexican author Jorge Volpi habitually converses with Iwasaki on the source of their passion, both in public and in private. In this session, recreating their fascinating conversations, full of references and narrative wisdom, they ask themselves how it is possible that ghosts, nightmares, rites and superstitions continue to scare us in the 21st century. Between them, they will take a look at horror and fantasy, from the short stories of Edgar Allan Poe to today, and they will stake their claims as the heirs of that tradition.